Squeak 4.42 crashes on Risc OS 5.28

[Ralf]

After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak (which
i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered Versions 4.0 and
4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both with the message
"Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".

Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a hint
how to resolve that problem?

[Chris Newman]

Post by Ralf
After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak
(which i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered
Versions 4.0 and 4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both
with the message "Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".
Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a
hint how to resolve that problem?

Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

[Ralf]

Post by Chris Newman
Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If you
are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth ist.

[Chris Newman]

Post by Ralf

Post by Chris Newman
Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If
you are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth ist.

Ta.

[Stuart]

Post by Ralf

Post by Chris Newman
Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If you
are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth

Apparently it's another programming language so why not say so?

[Ralf]

Post by Stuart
Apparently it's another programming language so why not say so?

Its... complicated ;-) Yes, smalltalk (and Squeak as its subset) is - on
the one hand - just another programming language, on the other hand its a
complete programming environment, a virtual machine with a complete
desktop environment (or better: it could be used in this way)...

Its just a whole lot stuff to fanboy about.

[Doug Webb]

Post by Ralf
After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak (which
i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered Versions 4.0 and
4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both with the message
"Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".
Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a hint
how to resolve that problem?

Hi Ralf,

I do get the occasional issue you mention on 4.4 though 4.6 does seem more
stable and I have recently updated it via the built in update.

A reboot usually cures it.

This is both on a ARMX6 and RaspberryPi4 running 5.29.

I also have Scratch 1.4 running here as well.

I did have some correspondance with Tim Rowledge about Squeak and Scratch
and he did some updates about 3 years back as one of the MUG members very
kindly provided him with an updated ROOL C update.

[Doug Webb]

Post by Doug Webb
I do get the occasional issue you mention on 4.4 though 4.6 does seem more
stable and I have recently updated it via the built in update.
A reboot usually cures it.

I have now altered the free object memory set aside when starting from
160Mb to 240Mb

/<Squeak$Dir>.!RunImage -memory:240m %*0

The change can be set in the !Run file as well as you can push it to use
DynamicArea memory even on RISCOS 5 with the -useDA attribute.

Just read the attribute bits in the !Run file and alter as required.

Hope that helps

[Ralf]

Post by Doug Webb
Hope that helps

Hi, thank you for your tips! After all, i (ssemingly) found the issue in a
different corner... at least now it runs: I had my OS running in ARMv5
compatibility mode, i just tried to set it to ARMv7 strict mode, and now
Squeak runs perfectly stable.