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Chris Newman
2022-03-13 23:24:49 UTC
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Hi,

Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?

It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.

Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.

Has anyone seen this?
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Chris Newman
Chris Newman
2022-03-14 00:08:57 UTC
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Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?
It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.
Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.
Has anyone seen this?
More info. I noticed I had an old version of Powerbase on the RiscPC.
9.85 DA. I thought I'd try the old one on the 5.28 on the Pi. When I
copied it over it magically became 10.32 DA. There is a Powerbase
directory in Choices but it's empty so how did it change itself? How
spooky!
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T M Smith
2022-03-14 10:58:47 UTC
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I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works as
previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot find
the cause of the problem.
I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29.
My problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record.
Maybe the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!

Malcolm Smith
Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?
It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.
Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.
Has anyone seen this?
--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire
Chris Newman
2022-03-14 14:07:37 UTC
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Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works
as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot
find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29. My
problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record. Maybe the problem is caused by some
other program on my computer?!!
Yes, I contacted him as well but no joy.

Is it something to do with32 bitting, or R5 or in my computer set-up?

Pity as it's a brilliant programme.

Exporting CSV still works OK.
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Chris Newman
Brian Howlett
2022-03-14 17:37:48 UTC
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Post by Chris Newman
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works
as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot
find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29. My
problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record. Maybe the problem is caused by some
other program on my computer?!!
Yes, I contacted him as well but no joy.
Is it something to do with32 bitting, or R5 or in my computer set-up?
Pity as it's a brilliant programme.
Exporting CSV still works OK.
I'm using Powerbase 9.85DA from 08-07-2012 on 5.28 (Titanium) here, and
Reports work fine.
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-14 18:24:23 UTC
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Post by Chris Newman
Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works
as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot
find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29. My
problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record. Maybe the problem is caused by some
other program on my computer?!!
Yes, I contacted him as well but no joy.
Is it something to do with32 bitting, or R5 or in my computer set-up?
Pity as it's a brilliant programme.
Exporting CSV still works OK.
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.

I do believe there is a working Demo version to try before you buy.

Works fine on RISC OS 5, and still supported and developed. Sine Nomine
also have a support mailing list available.

I run the club and show using it, plus plenty of my personal stuff.

Got any question feel free to ask.
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Stuart
2022-03-14 23:07:44 UTC
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Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Malcolm Smith
reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find !Masterfile
perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor. I
particularly like the simple cardfile approach.
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Steve Fryatt
2022-03-14 23:44:52 UTC
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On 14 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
Post by Stuart
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
I feel. Yes, it's relational -- but only if you go looking for it. Otherwise
it pretends to be a straightforward flat-file database, AIUI.
Post by Stuart
Malcolm Smith reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find
!Masterfile perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor.
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
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Jean-Michel
2022-03-15 07:52:54 UTC
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Post by Steve Fryatt
On 14 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
Post by Stuart
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
I feel. Yes, it's relational -- but only if you go looking for it. Otherwise
it pretends to be a straightforward flat-file database, AIUI.
Post by Stuart
Malcolm Smith reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find
!Masterfile perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor.
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
Three other RISC OS applications and maintained:
For an address book: Organizer.
For more general databases: Datapower or database by FireWorks.
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Stuart
2022-03-15 09:12:39 UTC
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Post by Steve Fryatt
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
Post by Chris Hughes
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even
import your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a
database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
The implication was that !Impact has more facilities and functions than
!Powerbase. I seem to remember looking at both when I had my first RO5
machine because !Mastefile became "abandonware" but I felt they were too
complex and I liked the simple cardfile approach of !Masterfile. I just
wish I was clever enough to convert it to 32 bit and correct some of its'
"sillys", which I did in an earlier version.

I do use !Fireworkz pro for some database aplications
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-15 09:36:54 UTC
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Post by Steve Fryatt
On 14 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
Post by Stuart
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
I feel. Yes, it's relational -- but only if you go looking for it. Otherwise
it pretends to be a straightforward flat-file database, AIUI.
Yes it can be used a flat database. it also uses the same mail merge
facilities that Powerbase uses via the Impulse module to either Ovation
Pro or Impression. Impcat also comes with ImpEmail , !LabPrint and
!DrawPrint - although all three of those extras can be brought separately
if you wanted.
Post by Steve Fryatt
Post by Stuart
Malcolm Smith reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find
!Masterfile perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor.
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
Is Masterfile still available for download? I used it as my first database
back in the Archimedes days.

Another Database program is !DataPower Home for the more simple version,
still available not aware of any development on it for years.

Fireworkz Pro has a cust down version of DataPoer database as its database
component. Note the free Fireworkz does not have the database part.

I suppose !Organizer could be used if wanting to just save a basic address
book as well, and still supported and in development.
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Adrian Crafer
2022-03-15 10:40:00 UTC
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Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Steve Fryatt
On 14 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
Post by Stuart
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
I feel. Yes, it's relational -- but only if you go looking for it. Otherwise
it pretends to be a straightforward flat-file database, AIUI.
Yes it can be used a flat database. it also uses the same mail merge
facilities that Powerbase uses via the Impulse module to either Ovation
Pro or Impression. Impcat also comes with ImpEmail , !LabPrint and
!DrawPrint - although all three of those extras can be brought separately
if you wanted.
Post by Steve Fryatt
Post by Stuart
Malcolm Smith reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find
!Masterfile perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor.
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
Is Masterfile still available for download? I used it as my first database
back in the Archimedes days.
Another Database program is !DataPower Home for the more simple version,
still available not aware of any development on it for years.
The full version of !DataPower I have is version 3.16 March 2014, it has
card file modes. I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore
appears not to be working at present. It is now an R-Comp product so
presumably it is being maintained and support is available.
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-15 11:26:20 UTC
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Post by Adrian Crafer
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Steve Fryatt
On 14 Mar, Stuart wrote in message
Post by Stuart
Post by Chris Hughes
Might I suggest possibly moving to !Impact from SineNomine, its a superb
relational database, with lots of nice facilities. You can even import
your CSV file into to it and will if you want create a database for you.
But maybe he doesn't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
It's not entirely fair to describe Impact as a sledgehammer in this context,
I feel. Yes, it's relational -- but only if you go looking for it. Otherwise
it pretends to be a straightforward flat-file database, AIUI.
Yes it can be used a flat database. it also uses the same mail merge
facilities that Powerbase uses via the Impulse module to either Ovation
Pro or Impression. Impcat also comes with ImpEmail , !LabPrint and
!DrawPrint - although all three of those extras can be brought separately
if you wanted.
Post by Steve Fryatt
Post by Stuart
Malcolm Smith reports using Powerbase for an address book database. I find
!Masterfile perfectly adequate for that and it runs here under !Aemulor.
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
Is Masterfile still available for download? I used it as my first database
back in the Archimedes days.
Another Database program is !DataPower Home for the more simple version,
still available not aware of any development on it for years.
The full version of !DataPower I have is version 3.16 March 2014, it has
card file modes. I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore
appears not to be working at present. It is now an R-Comp product so
presumably it is being maintained and support is available.
!DataPower 3 - the full version is still on version 3.16 March 2014
!DataPower Home is on version 1.70 (was called DataPower 2 I believe at
one time)

Info from !Store. So yes supported but does not look like any recent
development work.
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Doug Webb
2022-03-15 11:31:40 UTC
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Post by Adrian Crafer
I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore
appears not to be working at present.
Yes get an "error on server" message when trying to fetch Catalogue
updates.

Tried clean installs as well.

Hopefully it will be sorted soon.
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-15 12:07:01 UTC
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Post by Doug Webb
Post by Adrian Crafer
I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore
appears not to be working at present.
Yes get an "error on server" message when trying to fetch Catalogue
updates.
Tried clean installs as well.
Hopefully it will be sorted soon.
Just accessed it 15 mins ago not problem. If you get the message 'error on
server' just close !Store down and try later. It usually means the VPS
server they use is playing up again. I believe Alan Wrigley has to give
the server a good kicking to get it wake itself up.
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Adrian Crafer
2022-03-15 14:35:51 UTC
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Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Doug Webb
Post by Adrian Crafer
I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore
appears not to be working at present.
Yes get an "error on server" message when trying to fetch Catalogue
updates.
Tried clean installs as well.
Hopefully it will be sorted soon.
Just accessed it 15 mins ago not problem. If you get the message 'error on
server' just close !Store down and try later. It usually means the VPS
server they use is playing up again. I believe Alan Wrigley has to give
the server a good kicking to get it wake itself up.
I reported the issue to Andrew, apparently no-one else had complained. He
had the server kicked hence everything is now ok.

I also asked about DataPower updates and Andrew said that no-one had asked
for new features so no updates pending, and by the same token presumably
no-one has reported any bugs.
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charles
2022-03-15 14:51:35 UTC
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Post by Adrian Crafer
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Doug Webb
I am not sure if there is a later version as !Plingstore appears not
to be working at present.
Yes get an "error on server" message when trying to fetch Catalogue
updates.
Tried clean installs as well.
Hopefully it will be sorted soon.
Just accessed it 15 mins ago not problem. If you get the message 'error
on server' just close !Store down and try later. It usually means the
VPS server they use is playing up again. I believe Alan Wrigley has to
give the server a good kicking to get it wake itself up.
I reported the issue to Andrew, apparently no-one else had complained. He
had the server kicked hence everything is now ok.
I also asked about DataPower updates and Andrew said that no-one had
asked for new features so no updates pending, and by the same token
presumably no-one has reported any bugs.
I've never come across any.
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Metallic
2022-03-15 12:31:13 UTC
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Post by Steve Fryatt
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being actively
maintained...
In a bit of a twist, after what may have been about a decade, Powerbase received an update earlier this year. Check out http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/ for details.

One other thing that occurred to me is that it may be an ARMv8 issue, so running it under Aemulor may resolve Chris's original issue?

Andy
Chris Newman
2022-03-15 17:24:46 UTC
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Post by Metallic
Post by Steve Fryatt
By the sound of it, Impact is the odd one out of the three by being
actively maintained...
In a bit of a twist, after what may have been about a decade, Powerbase
received an update earlier this year. Check out
http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/ for details.
One other thing that occurred to me is that it may be an ARMv8 issue,
so running it under Aemulor may resolve Chris's original issue?
I thought about that as well. Just ran Aemulor and fired up the offending
database & seemingly no change. Problem still there.
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Matthew Phillips
2022-03-21 21:06:37 UTC
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Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works as
previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot find
the cause of the problem.
I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29.
My problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record.
Maybe the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!
As I'm not familiar with Powerbase, I probably cannot help, but when you
mentioned making a Report below, I wondered whether this is something
Powerbase does in conjunction with Impression or Ovation Pro by
mail-merging?

If it is a mail-merged report, then that will rely on the Impulse module,
which I maintain. I haven't issued a new version since 2012, though, so if
Powerbase has recently gone wrong this won't be the cause.

Matthew
Post by T M Smith
Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?
It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.
Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.
Has anyone seen this?
--
Matthew Phillips
Durham
Chris Newman
2022-03-23 17:30:20 UTC
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Post by Matthew Phillips
Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works
as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he
cannot find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6 and Riscos
5.29. My problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of
separate fields rather than a complete record. Maybe the problem is
caused by some other program on my computer?!!
As I'm not familiar with Powerbase, I probably cannot help, but when
you mentioned making a Report below, I wondered whether this is
something Powerbase does in conjunction with Impression or Ovation Pro
by mail-merging?
No, 'tis completely self-contained within Powerbase.
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Harriet Bazley
2022-03-25 14:20:56 UTC
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On 14 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by T M Smith
Post by Chris Newman
Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?
It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.
Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer works as
previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam but he cannot find
the cause of the problem.
I am using an Armx6 and Riscos 5.29.
My problem is that a record seems to behave as a number of separate fields
rather than a complete record.
Maybe the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!
I haven't used Powerbase for a long time, but while there seem to be
some odd issues in using the latest version of the program on ARMX6
(e.g. using the 'next record' button only updates Field 1, with the data
displayed in the other fields remaining the same), making a Report was
one feature that on testing did seem to function as expected...

Given that the software is written in BBC BASIC, the only element that
ought to be affected by hardware issues is presumably the sliding heap
module used for memory management?
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Harriet Bazley
2022-03-25 19:10:20 UTC
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On 25 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Harriet Bazley
I haven't used Powerbase for a long time, but while there seem to be
some odd issues in using the latest version of the program on ARMX6
(e.g. using the 'next record' button only updates Field 1, with the data
displayed in the other fields remaining the same), making a Report was
one feature that on testing did seem to function as expected...
Given that the software is written in BBC BASIC, the only element that
ought to be affected by hardware issues is presumably the sliding heap
module used for memory management?
Apparently it only uses the SlidingHeap library on RISC OS 3.1, so that
shouldn't be the issue - there may of course be an error in the dynamic
area handling. Possibly a case of memory addresses too high (too much
memory available) rather than OS version?
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Martin
2022-03-27 15:38:38 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer
works as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam
but he cannot find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6
and Riscos 5.29. My problem is that a record seems to behave as a
number of separate fields rather than a complete record. Maybe
the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!
I haven't used Powerbase for a long time, but while there seem to
be some odd issues in using the latest version of the program on
ARMX6 (e.g. using the 'next record' button only updates Field 1,
with the data displayed in the other fields remaining the same),
making a Report was one feature that on testing did seem to
function as expected...
I have been in touch with Chris N (who made the top post), and Derek H
(developer) and I believe the initial problem is identified.

I am unclear from Malcolm S what his problem is.

Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' - are
the other unchanged fields updated if another window is dragged across
them? What version of PB is that?
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Harriet Bazley
2022-03-27 16:49:45 UTC
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On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
I have been in touch with Chris N (who made the top post), and Derek H
(developer) and I believe the initial problem is identified.
Excellent! (That means I don't have to feel guilty about not
code-diving....)

[snip]
Post by Martin
Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' - are
the other unchanged fields updated if another window is dragged across
them? What version of PB is that?
Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update the
fields correctly!

Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
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Martin
2022-03-27 22:50:38 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
the fields correctly!
Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
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Harriet Bazley
2022-03-28 08:31:00 UTC
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On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
the fields correctly!
Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-28 10:32:54 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' -
are the other unchanged fields updated if another window is
dragged across them? What version of PB is that?
Oh, I hadn't tried that - yes, forcing a window redraw does update
the fields correctly!
Powerbase 10.32DA on ARMX6.
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
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Harriet Bazley
2022-03-28 12:10:24 UTC
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On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
wouldn't know where to start....
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Chris Hughes
2022-03-28 12:49:06 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
wouldn't know where to start....
Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
previous version if you wish.

You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
details in the booklet that came with your computer.

Open the ZIP file, copy the installer on to your drive and then run it.
This installs the new version of the OS (shows you what its doing). The
window with the upgrade button also gives you a summary of the changes
since the previous update, etc..

Once its installed it will advise you to reboot and thats it, your using
the new OS version.
--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have move to
Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk
Kevin Wells
2022-03-28 14:45:52 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Harriet Bazley
On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Martin
What version & date of RISC OS, and for the WindowManager?
It reports RISC OS 5.27 (30-Sep-20) and Window Manager 5.79 (12 Sep
2020). The machine was supplied new at the beginning of October 2020.
Thats an old OS version for the ARMX6, its now on 5.29 (1 Feb 2022),
I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
wouldn't know where to start....
Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
previous version if you wish.
You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
details in the booklet that came with your computer.
There is also a PDF version of it in the Documents directory called
Welcome/pdf
[snip]
--
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/ https://ko-fi.com/kevsoft
carpe cervisium
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Harriet Bazley
2022-03-28 17:01:17 UTC
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On 28 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
Post by Chris Hughes
Post by Harriet Bazley
I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life and
wouldn't know where to start....
Its not a ROM re-flash. R-Comp provide a simple upgarde program that does
all the work for you and also gives you the option to roll back to the
previous version if you wish.
You download the update from the secure download site they provided the
details in the booklet that came with your computer.
OK, I downloaded and ran what appeared to be the relevant version
(IMX6_OSupg20). I also spent forever downloading the 'Stuff Pack 12',
but on reading the innards of that it doesn't appear to have been
updated since Spring 2018, well before my computer was sent out - doing
the version check on ChangeFSI as suggested reports that I already have
the latest copy. So I haven't attempted to use that, especially since
my preferred hard disc layout is different to that of the default
supplied version (I'm *still* moving things to more logical positions
where I can find them, even after two years on the new OS!)

But I ran the OS upgrade program, and after rebooting it now reports
RISC OS 5.29 (01 Feb 22) and Window Manager 5.84 (29 Dec 2021). It
hasn't cured the original redraw problem in Powerbase, though. :-(


An interesting further observation (re Powerbase) is that if I create a
report and then jump to a specific record by double-clicking on the
report window, then the field I double-clicked on *does* get updated
correctly, in addition to the main index field (which is the only one
updated when you use Go To Next/Previous Record). But none of the
other fields in the record are redrawn.
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

A closed mouth gathers no foot.
News
2022-03-28 13:27:49 UTC
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I'm afraid I've never done an OS update (ROM re-flash?) in my life
and wouldn't know where to start....
There is no ROM reflash - everything is on SD card and/or SSD.

Download the latest OS and Harddrive4 zips from the R-Comp site (I
think you have an ARMX6?) and run the supplied !Install utility.
Simples.
--
Chris Johnson
Chris Newman
2022-04-10 11:06:33 UTC
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Post by Harriet Bazley
Post by T M Smith
I use Powerbase for my my address book database. It no longer
works as previously. I have been in touch with Derek Haslam
but he cannot find the cause of the problem. I am using an Armx6
and Riscos 5.29. My problem is that a record seems to behave as a
number of separate fields rather than a complete record. Maybe
the problem is caused by some other program on my computer?!!
I haven't used Powerbase for a long time, but while there seem to
be some odd issues in using the latest version of the program on
ARMX6 (e.g. using the 'next record' button only updates Field 1,
with the data displayed in the other fields remaining the same),
making a Report was one feature that on testing did seem to
function as expected...
I have been in touch with Chris N (who made the top post), and Derek H
(developer) and I believe the initial problem is identified.
I am unclear from Malcolm S what his problem is.
Harriet: I have also seen the redraw problem with 'next record' - are
the other unchanged fields updated if another window is dragged across
them? What version of PB is that?
GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.

http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm

Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
of the window manager.
--
Chris Newman
Harriet Bazley
2022-04-10 11:49:19 UTC
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On 10 Apr 2022 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

[snip]
Post by Chris Newman
GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.
http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm
Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
of the window manager.
Great. I can confirm that I'm no longer seeing the 'next record' bug at
least.
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from
T M Smith
2022-04-10 16:28:42 UTC
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On 10 Apr 2022 as I do recall,
[snip]
Post by Chris Newman
GOOD NEWS. There is now a new version of Powerbase to download.
http://www.boulsworth.co.uk/pbase/zips.htm
Thanks to Martin's input, Derek has produced v.10.41 (07-04-22) which
fixes not only my problem with corrupted reports but also a number of
other problems which seem to be associated with the most recent versions
of the window manager.
Great. I can confirm that I'm no longer seeing the 'next record' bug at
least.
Me as well, Thanks very much for the update.
Malcolm Smith
--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire
Brian Jordan
2022-03-31 11:06:49 UTC
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Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
Does anyone use !Powerbase (by Derek Haslam) on RISC OS 5.28?
It works perfectly until I try to make a Report, the resulting file is
truncated or garbled.
Once I've used it on R5, if I transfer the database to my Virtual Acorn
4.39 it still grabled.
Has anyone seen this?
I have been following this thread from the start and although I have yet
to see the problem with reporting I have found an issue which occurs in
version 10.32DA (28-11-2021) and not version 9.85DA (08-07-2012).

I haven't used Powerbase in some years and thought I'd revisit it out of
interest. I started by working through a tutorial which requires one to
use a supplied database (!Elements). It falls over, in 10.32DA, when
trying to add a record with "Message from Powerbase Corrupt PrimaryKey
file! Next 'free' record (#103) is actually in use and continuing would
overwrite it at 10997 (Powerbase must quit at once)"

This doesn't happen in the older version of Powerbase and I wonder if
this (and maybe the reporting problem) occurs when opening databases
created in older versions of Powerbase in the latest version?
--
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Brian Jordan
RISC OS 5.28 (16-Dec-20) on Raspberry Pi
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