Printers 1.89

[Dave]

G'day folks.
Printers 1.89 (28 Feb 18) being the version used (I think) on RISC OS 5.28
installs.

Does anyone know if this version of Printers will run on a VRPC running
RISC OS 6.20?

Thanks
Dave

[Chris Hughes]

Post by Dave
G'day folks.
Printers 1.89 (28 Feb 18) being the version used (I think) on RISC OS 5.28
installs.

I am currently using Printers 1.90 (available from ROOL or via Packman)

Post by Dave
Does anyone know if this version of Printers will run on a VRPC running
RISC OS 6.20?

Interesting question, I now rearly use my VRPC installs instead tend to
use the RPCEmu ones.

But I can't see why it would not work. Why not backup your existing
version of Printers and install the new one.

[Dave]

Post by Chris Hughes

G'day folks. Printers 1.89 (28 Feb 18) being the version used (I
think) on RISC OS 5.28 installs.

I am currently using Printers 1.90 (available from ROOL or via Packman)

I see no Printers on Packman, or !Store.

Post by Chris Hughes

Does anyone know if this version of Printers will run on a VRPC running
RISC OS 6.20?

Interesting question, I now rearly use my VRPC installs instead tend to
use the RPCEmu ones.
But I can't see why it would not work. Why not backup your existing
version of Printers and install the new one.

I did download from the ROOL site, but that was still only 1.49.

Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...

"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

Dave

[Chris Hughes]

Post by Dave

Post by Chris Hughes

G'day folks. Printers 1.89 (28 Feb 18) being the version used (I
think) on RISC OS 5.28 installs.

I am currently using Printers 1.90 (available from ROOL or via Packman)

I see no Printers on Packman, or !Store.

Add to packman sources (via icon bar menu > advanced > sources
http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

Then most of the hard disc 4 applications will be available for updating
individually, saves downloading the whole HD4 image to get one program.

Obviously majority will be intended for RISC OS 5.x

Post by Dave

Post by Chris Hughes

Does anyone know if this version of Printers will run on a VRPC running
RISC OS 6.20?

Interesting question, I now rearly use my VRPC installs instead tend to
use the RPCEmu ones.
But I can't see why it would not work. Why not backup your existing
version of Printers and install the new one.

I did download from the ROOL site, but that was still only 1.49.
Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

As it says it looking for USB based drivers. Did you just copy it from
another computer that had a USB based printer attached. Or downloaded a
fresh copy?

You did remember to reboot after installing the new version hopefully.

[Dave]

[Snip]

Post by Chris Hughes
Add to packman sources (via icon bar menu > advanced > sources
http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

Thanks...
Today... Tried the above and it did indeed add to Packman, where it
downloaded.

Tried it and it just presented the same message as yesterday.

Post by Chris Hughes
Then most of the hard disc 4 applications will be available for updating
individually, saves downloading the whole HD4 image to get one program.
Obviously majority will be intended for RISC OS 5.x

Removed this new version and reverted to the usual Printers+ 1.91a where
it had now become uppity... Now sorted.

[Snip]

Post by Chris Hughes

Post by Dave
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

As it says it looking for USB based drivers. Did you just copy it from
another computer that had a USB based printer attached. Or downloaded a
fresh copy?
You did remember to reboot after installing the new version hopefully.

Downloaded from the ROOL site and extracted from HardDisc4 yesterday.

Yes, did reboots.

There are No USB printers here they are both attached to the LAN.

ENUFFFFF!

Thanks for your thoughts Chris, appreciated. :-)
But I'm abandoning any further attempts to change Printers on VRPC.

Aside note...

On my RPCEmu installs running RISC OS 5.28 and 5.29, the Printer update
from 1.89 to 1.90 went okay.

Thanks
Dave

[Sprow]

Post by Dave
Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

You've only done half the job: the printer definitions resource is missing (!Boot.Resources.!PrintDefs usually), as Printer Manager refers to that for all its printer definitions, which includes the table mapping USB ids to printer definitions. It loads the table regardless of which connection type you have,
Sprow.

[Dave]

Post by Sprow

Post by Dave
Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

You've only done half the job: the printer definitions resource is
missing (!Boot.Resources.!PrintDefs usually), as Printer Manager refers
to that for all its printer definitions, which includes the table
mapping USB ids to printer definitions. It loads the table regardless
of which connection type you have,
Sprow.

Erm! Interesting...

On this VRPC-DL install RISC OS 6.20, in !Boot.Resources there is No
"!PrintDefs".

Searching, I cannot find a !PrintDefs in RISC OS 6.20.

I see looking at the HardDisk4 archive downloaded from the ROOL site that
Resources does contain !PrintDefs.

If I transfer that in, then the USBMap error goes away, however a new
error presents, "Printers:pdf.Resources.support not found"

Dave

[Chris Hughes]

Post by Dave

Post by Sprow

Post by Dave
Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

You've only done half the job: the printer definitions resource is
missing (!Boot.Resources.!PrintDefs usually), as Printer Manager refers
to that for all its printer definitions, which includes the table
mapping USB ids to printer definitions. It loads the table regardless
of which connection type you have,
Sprow.

Oh good spot, forgotten the Printer defs were now in a little app.

It's again available via Packman.

Post by Dave
Erm! Interesting...
On this VRPC-DL install RISC OS 6.20, in !Boot.Resources there is No
"!PrintDefs".
Searching, I cannot find a !PrintDefs in RISC OS 6.20.

Thats because 6.20 did a different way (the old way if you like)

Post by Dave
I see looking at the HardDisk4 archive downloaded from the ROOL site that
Resources does contain !PrintDefs.
If I transfer that in, then the USBMap error goes away, however a new
error presents, "Printers:pdf.Resources.support not found"

It would be in your !Boot.Choices "Printers" folder or should be.

[Sprow]

Post by Dave

Post by Sprow

Post by Dave
Anyway, trying with 1.89 it fails with error messages, the main one
being...
"File name 'USBmap' not recognised." What ever that might be?

You've only done half the job: the printer definitions resource is
missing (!Boot.Resources.!PrintDefs usually) [...] includes the table
mapping USB ids to printer definitions

On this VRPC-DL install RISC OS 6.20, in !Boot.Resources there is No
"!PrintDefs".

I think Chris has guided you to several ways to get the missing bit.

Post by Dave
If I transfer that in, then the USBMap error goes away, however a new
error presents, "Printers:pdf.Resources.support not found"

You've got a lingering reference to the PDF generator that I think was part of RISC OS 4 (Taboraca?). You could probably transplant that from your earlier Printer Manager just to shut up the error message, but for PDF output you'd probably want PDFmaker (RComp) or PrintPDF (Steve Fryatt). Personally I just print PostScript to a file then distill it but those are a couple of current ways to do it in one step,
Sprow.