O Browser

[Chris Newman]

Hi,

I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following

message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
Error : &00000000
Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.


Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

[Chris Hughes]

Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following
message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
Error : &00000000
Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.
Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?

There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser or
in the ZIp file.

Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

[Harriet Bazley]

On 1 Jan 2022 as I do recall,

Post by Chris Hughes

Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following
message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
Error : &00000000
Message: Although you have !SharedLibs (probably in !Boot.Resources),
it is missing necessary shared libraries. Please see Readme.
Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?
There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser or
in the ZIp file.
Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman, which
updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely customised
(and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working again. I
can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

[Chris Newman]

Post by Harriet Bazley

Post by Chris Hughes

Post by Chris Newman
Hi,
I thought I'd give O browser a whirl but got the following
message.....12:13:02.26 ** WimpError ** from Otter Browser FE
Error : &00000000 Message: Although you have !SharedLibs
(probably in !Boot.Resources), it is missing necessary shared
libraries. Please see Readme.
Readme wasn't much help. Where do I get whatever is missing?

I suspect you have not updated the !SharedLibs ?
There would have been an updated !SharedLibs on the CD with !Obrowser
or in the ZIp file.
Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman,
which updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely
customised (and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working
again. I can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

Ah! That would explain it.

[Chris Newman]

Post by Harriet Bazley

Post by Chris Hughes
Otherwise you could probably updated it via Packman - Backup your
existing !SharedLibs first, although Packman is supposed to do an
automatic backup if it already exist, I use belt and braces system.

My OBrowser stopped working last February after I updated Packman, which
updated !SharedLibs - I suspect RComp's version is extremely customised
(and I still haven't got round to trying to get it working again. I
can't find my original CD, unfortunately).

Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

[Theo]

Post by Chris Newman
Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the archives are
just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to upgrade things
automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it wants to bring
under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there is a risk it won't
get things quite right. At the end of the day you don't need to use
Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process, but you can do
everything by hand.

I haven't used Obrowser or Iris, but Andrew said Iris used a version of
!SharedLibs embedded inside it - which may not mesh nicely with a system
wide one. He was looking into making that work more smoothly a few months
back - I'm not sure where he got to on that.

Theo

[Chris Newman]

Post by Theo

Post by Chris Newman
Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to
upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it
wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there
is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the end of the day you
don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process,
but you can do everything by hand.

Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

Post by Theo
I haven't used Obrowser or Iris, but Andrew said Iris used a version of
!SharedLibs embedded inside it - which may not mesh nicely with a
system wide one. He was looking into making that work more smoothly a
few months back - I'm not sure where he got to on that.

I think that might have been done. When I first bought Iris from the
!Store I got an error message with !SharedLibs in Boot.Resources so I
took it out. I recently tried SharedLibs again & now there seems to be no
clash.

[Theo]

Post by Chris Newman

Post by Theo

Post by Chris Newman
Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able to
upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up files it
wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too clever' there
is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the end of the day you
don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to automate this process,
but you can do everything by hand.

Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

Probably:
http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Packages
assuming someone has uploaded suitably recent builds.

You would first need to know which packages Obrowser needs.
There is a list for Otter-browser:
http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Otter-browserarm

but that's probably out of date. If you have the package zipfile for
Obrowser the list should be inside in RiscPkg.Control, although you then
need to follow the dependencies manually (ie if Obrowser depends on X, and X
depends on Y, and Y on Z, you'd need all three)

Theo

[Chris Newman]

Post by Chris Newman

Post by Theo

Post by Chris Newman
Can !SharedLibs be updated manually without the need for Packman?

You can download all the pieces and install them manually - the
archives are just zip files. Although Packman then won't be able
to upgrade things automatically - it'll prompt before it backs up
files it wants to bring under its own management. If you are 'too
clever' there is a risk it won't get things quite right. At the
end of the day you don't need to use Packman, it's just a tool to
automate this process, but you can do everything by hand.

Thanks for that. Where do I go to get the relevant SharedLibs files?

Probably: http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Packages assuming someone
has uploaded suitably recent builds.
You would first need to know which packages Obrowser needs. There is a
http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Otter-browserarm
but that's probably out of date. If you have the package zipfile for
Obrowser the list should be inside in RiscPkg.Control, although you
then need to follow the dependencies manually (ie if Obrowser depends
on X, and X depends on Y, and Y on Z, you'd need all three)

Thanks, Theo. Looks a bit of a faff. I'll have a go when I get a window
of opportinity, as they say.

Iris is doing quite well. I just wondered what O browser had to offfer.